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tony7914
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 Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:19 pm Post subject: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
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I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
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ejward
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| So you think Iran should be attacked because someone handed out flyers?
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CowpokeBob
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| So you think Iran should be attacked because someone handed out flyers? |
Are you proposing that we attack Iran EJ? This is a surprise! I wouldn't have thought that of you. |
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ejward
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:53 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| So you think Iran should be attacked because someone handed out flyers? |
Are you proposing that we attack Iran EJ? This is a surprise! I wouldn't have thought that of you. |
I'm not proposing anything. I was asking a question. |
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Gezzer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
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I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
at least they may have WMD, that they are still working on, which would be a step beyond the information that required an invasion in regard to Iraq and there so called WMD …
so when do we invade ? … |
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ejward
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:59 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| it seems to me that Israel is more of the threat to peace in the middle east at this point. That was one of the reasons to go into Iraq. Do we attack them? |
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Gezzer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:26 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| it seems to me that Israel is more of the threat to peace in the middle east at this point. That was one of the reasons to go into Iraq. Do we attack them? |
now that is a very good point, do we invade or do we support, i don't have an answer … |
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CowpokeBob
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Gezzer wrote: |
| ejward wrote: |
| it seems to me that Israel is more of the threat to peace in the middle east at this point. That was one of the reasons to go into Iraq. Do we attack them? |
now that is a very good point, do we invade or do we support, i don't have an answer … |
Since the point of all these cute little jabs at the Iraq war is to illicit a response can I play this game?? Yes? Ok, here goes...
Since they are promoting our secret interests to eliminate any opposition in the region while seizing the oil resources for ourselves I say its obvious we must support Israel. I say we provide them with all the weaponry they need (including nuclear weaponry) so they can continue to do what they have demonstrated they know full well how to do quite well...defend themselves.
It'll work this way. Invasion is not necessary. The Iranians will do all the hard work themselves. All we need to do is spread enough "fear" areound so that when the Iranians finish making thier "bomb" and conduct a "test" Israel will be fully ready to "defend" itself by "nuking" them. They can turn around and blame blame it on the Iranians later since after all the iranians have publicly called for the elimination of Israel many times. Such an "example" of ours and our partner Israel's "resolve" would go a long way in promoting our cause with the fence leaning states of the region.
Note that all of the above is pure BS. I used a tidbit or two of fact liberally laced with believably sounding if unfounded and/or unproven information and a good bit of bias mixed with a touch of fiction. Sort of like what gets posted here sometimes to justify some of the off the wall claims being made. Of course all that may actually have made sense to some of you and thats really scary!
Was that the kind of response you were illiciting? If all you want to do is throw barbs the least I can do is provide a target.  |
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tony7914
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| So you think Iran should be attacked because someone handed out flyers? |
Where did I say that????? |
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tony7914
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
Source.
I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
at least they may have WMD, that they are still working on, which would be a step beyond the information that required an invasion in regard to Iraq and there so called WMD …
so when do we invade ? … |
This isn't about Iraq and no one mentioned invading anywhere. Stay on topic please. |
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CowpokeBob
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
Source.
I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
My apologies Tony but I couldn't resist taking a shot at the twins and thier constant jabs.
Now as to the topic of Iranian suicide bombers and how Obama would handle or perhaps should handle it. I'll take a shot. My guess is that he would probably condemn it in some fashion and that would be it. Personally I think that might be a worthwhile responsse in this case. The article is now more than a year old. The sources and connections made in the article tenuous at best and most importantly no suicide bombers have made an appearance in this country. Iran is well known for its anti-american sabre rattling. Anything more than a simple statement that we take all such threats seriously or something like that would just be paying Iran lip service it doesn't deserve. |
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tony7914
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| CowpokeBob wrote: |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
Source.
I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
My apologies Tony but I couldn't resist taking a shot at the twins and thier constant jabs.
Now as to the topic of Iranian suicide bombers and how Obama would handle or perhaps should handle it. I'll take a shot. My guess is that he would probably condemn it in some fashion and that would be it. Personally I think that might be a worthwhile responsse in this case. The article is now more than a year old. The sources and connections made in the article tenuous at best and most importantly no suicide bombers have made an appearance in this country. Iran is well known for its anti-american sabre rattling. Anything more than a simple statement that we take all such threats seriously or something like that would just be paying Iran lip service it doesn't deserve. |
I understand, sometimes it's hard to pass up an opportunity  I am curious as to what Obama will do if something does come to pass, the last thing we need is another president who is soft or an apologist. |
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Gezzer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| tony7914 wrote: |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
Source.
I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
My apologies Tony but I couldn't resist taking a shot at the twins and thier constant jabs.
Now as to the topic of Iranian suicide bombers and how Obama would handle or perhaps should handle it. I'll take a shot. My guess is that he would probably condemn it in some fashion and that would be it. Personally I think that might be a worthwhile responsse in this case. The article is now more than a year old. The sources and connections made in the article tenuous at best and most importantly no suicide bombers have made an appearance in this country. Iran is well known for its anti-american sabre rattling. Anything more than a simple statement that we take all such threats seriously or something like that would just be paying Iran lip service it doesn't deserve. |
I understand, sometimes it's hard to pass up an opportunity I am curious as to what Obama will do if something does come to pass, the last thing we need is another president who is soft or an apologist. |
i didn't know that the last/present president was soft or an apologist, have i missed something … |
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tony7914
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Gezzer wrote: |
| tony7914 wrote: |
| CowpokeBob wrote: |
| tony7914 wrote: |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
Source.
I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
My apologies Tony but I couldn't resist taking a shot at the twins and thier constant jabs.
Now as to the topic of Iranian suicide bombers and how Obama would handle or perhaps should handle it. I'll take a shot. My guess is that he would probably condemn it in some fashion and that would be it. Personally I think that might be a worthwhile responsse in this case. The article is now more than a year old. The sources and connections made in the article tenuous at best and most importantly no suicide bombers have made an appearance in this country. Iran is well known for its anti-american sabre rattling. Anything more than a simple statement that we take all such threats seriously or something like that would just be paying Iran lip service it doesn't deserve. |
I understand, sometimes it's hard to pass up an opportunity I am curious as to what Obama will do if something does come to pass, the last thing we need is another president who is soft or an apologist. |
i didn't know that the last/present president was soft or an apologist, have i missed something … |
Yea, you mistakenly assumed I was talking about the last president |
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Gezzer
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| Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| tony7914 wrote: |
| Gezzer wrote: |
| tony7914 wrote: |
| CowpokeBob wrote: |
| tony7914 wrote: |
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Jerusalem (CNSNews.com) – Fliers calling for young people to sign up for Hezbollah suicide attacks against the U.S. were distributed recently in Tehran and elsewhere in Iran.
The Iranian Web site Tabnak reported that the fliers called on young Iranians to sign up for Hezbollah “martyrdom operations,” according to a translation provided by the Middle East Media Research Institute.
Tabnak is linked to Mohsen Rezai, the secretary of Iran’s Expediency and Discernment Council, which advises the country’s supreme leader. Rezai is the former commander of the elite Islamic Republican Guard Corps.
The fliers called for those interested to sign up for “the worldwide front against the Global Arrogance,” i.e., the U.S.......... |
Source.
I wonder how Obama would handle something like this? |
My apologies Tony but I couldn't resist taking a shot at the twins and thier constant jabs.
Now as to the topic of Iranian suicide bombers and how Obama would handle or perhaps should handle it. I'll take a shot. My guess is that he would probably condemn it in some fashion and that would be it. Personally I think that might be a worthwhile responsse in this case. The article is now more than a year old. The sources and connections made in the article tenuous at best and most importantly no suicide bombers have made an appearance in this country. Iran is well known for its anti-american sabre rattling. Anything more than a simple statement that we take all such threats seriously or something like that would just be paying Iran lip service it doesn't deserve. |
I understand, sometimes it's hard to pass up an opportunity I am curious as to what Obama will do if something does come to pass, the last thing we need is another president who is soft or an apologist. |
i didn't know that the last/present president was soft or an apologist, have i missed something … |
Yea, you mistakenly assumed I was talking about the last president |
it seems i may have very well missed something then … |
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CowpokeBob
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| Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: Re: In Iran, A Call for Suicide Bombers to Attack the U.S. [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Gezzer wrote: |
| i didn't know that the last/present president was soft or an apologist, have i missed something … |
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| Yea, you mistakenly assumed I was talking about the last president |
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| it seems i may have very well missed something then … |
I edited out the earlier posts to cut down on distraction so you'll have to go back to the original article for an example. The discussion as I understand it is how would/will Obama handle a situation like the one described in the article if it should come up.
I stand by my opinion that he he would most likely do nothing except he might take to political sabre rattling just for the home audience. Unless such threats were actually carried out upon us. Even then I don't think he would take any severe actions in reprisal. At best we might see a missle strike against a meaningless target in response. I don't think he has the backbone needed. Just my opinion. |
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ejward
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| Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| So you think Iran should be attacked because someone handed out flyers? |
Where did I say that????? |
So how do you suggest Obama andle it? Or George Bush since he is currently President? |
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ejward
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| Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:22 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| CowpokeBob wrote: |
| Gezzer wrote: |
| ejward wrote: |
| it seems to me that Israel is more of the threat to peace in the middle east at this point. That was one of the reasons to go into Iraq. Do we attack them? |
now that is a very good point, do we invade or do we support, i don't have an answer … |
Since the point of all these cute little jabs at the Iraq war is to illicit a response can I play this game?? Yes? Ok, here goes...
Since they are promoting our secret interests to eliminate any opposition in the region while seizing the oil resources for ourselves I say its obvious we must support Israel. I say we provide them with all the weaponry they need (including nuclear weaponry) so they can continue to do what they have demonstrated they know full well how to do quite well...defend themselves.
It'll work this way. Invasion is not necessary. The Iranians will do all the hard work themselves. All we need to do is spread enough "fear" areound so that when the Iranians finish making thier "bomb" and conduct a "test" Israel will be fully ready to "defend" itself by "nuking" them. They can turn around and blame blame it on the Iranians later since after all the iranians have publicly called for the elimination of Israel many times. Such an "example" of ours and our partner Israel's "resolve" would go a long way in promoting our cause with the fence leaning states of the region.
Note that all of the above is pure BS. I used a tidbit or two of fact liberally laced with believably sounding if unfounded and/or unproven information and a good bit of bias mixed with a touch of fiction. Sort of like what gets posted here sometimes to justify some of the off the wall claims being made. Of course all that may actually have made sense to some of you and thats really scary!
Was that the kind of response you were illiciting? If all you want to do is throw barbs the least I can do is provide a target. |
That was useful .... thanks.  |
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CowpokeBob
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| Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:43 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| ejward wrote: |
| tony7914 wrote: |
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| So you think Iran should be attacked because someone handed out flyers? |
Where did I say that????? |
So how do you suggest Obama andle it? Or George Bush since he is currently President? |
This exchange was between you and Tony but since you didn't specify I will re-post my earlier reply:
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| Now as to the topic of Iranian suicide bombers and how Obama would handle or perhaps should handle it. I'll take a shot. My guess is that he would probably condemn it in some fashion and that would be it. Personally I think that might be a worthwhile response in this case. |
That was my response to the 'threat' in Tony's article. If such a threat were actually carried out and found to be sponsored by the Iranian government in any way than I think it would be time for a 'regime change'. Given that it would be hard to do so militarily on the ground with our forces tied up elsewhere. I think a Tomahawk or two targeted at the leadership of iran would do for now. If the iranians still want to play tit for tat after that then we can oblige them. Once again just my opinion.
We aren't discussing George Bush here so the answer to your other question is: No comment. |
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ejward
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So a call for suicide bombers to attack the US only matters when Obama is President? It's happening now. If it matters at all, shouldn't something be done now?
My vote is that they're only flyers. It's meaningless. I'm sure similar flyers are being passed out all over the world. We're just looking for a fight with Iran. |
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