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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject:

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WASHINGTON — Federal Reserve (search) Chairman Alan Greenspan (search) said Thursday that the U.S. economy was on a "reasonably firm footing" while inflation was under control, a situation that will allow policymakers to raise interest rates at a measured pace.

In his most extensive remarks on the state of the economy since February, Greenspan told the congressional Joint Economic Committee (search) that a recent uptick in economic indicators showed the soft readings of the early spring were not signaling a more serious slowdown in the pace of activity.

Greenspan's generally upbeat assessment of the economy provided support for the view that the Fed, which has raised interest rates eight times over the past year, planned to continue nudging rates higher at a gradual pace.

"Despite some of the risks that I have highlighted, the U.S. economy seems to be on a reasonably firm footing, and underlying inflation remains contained," Greenspan said in prepared testimony
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"Accordingly, the Federal Open Market Committee (search) in its May meeting reaffirmed that it '...believes that policy accommodation can be removed at a pace that is likely to be measured,"' he added.

The Fed chief noted that slower productivity growth was pushing up U.S. labor costs and said it was an "open question" whether the rise would feed into inflation or hit corporate profits.

"Evidence of increased pricing power can be gleaned from the profit margins of nonfinancial businesses, which have continued to press higher even outside the energy sector. Whether that rise in unit costs will feed into the core price level or will be absorbed by a fall in profit margins remains an open question," Greenspan said.

He said most recent data support the view that soft readings on the economy in early spring "were not presaging a more serious slowdown in the pace of (economic) activity."

While Greenspan repeated that he did not think a nationwide housing price bubble was likely, he pointed to signs of "froth" in some local markets where home prices seem to have climbed to unsustainable levels.

Fed policymakers next meet on June 29-30 and it is widely expected that the Fed will raise a key short-term rate, the federal funds rate, by another quarter-point to 3.25 percent at that time.

Many analysts believe that the Fed will keep raising rates by a quarter-point at later meetings this year, but others think the Fed may decide to pause in the rate hikes later in the summer or early fall.

Greenspan, however, gave no hint that the Fed is ready to pause in its rate hike campaign.

He said that the economy has "alternately paused and quickened" this year, fluctuations that he blamed in large part on the rise and fall in energy prices.

Reuters and the Associated Press contributed to this report.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject:

If things were going so bad why in fact would rates have raised 8 times this year alone ? ? ?
This has never taken place in a sagging economy...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject:

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If things were going so bad why in fact would rates have raised 8 times this year alone ? ? ?
This has never taken place in a sagging economy...

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The last real sagging economy we had was when the FDA pulled Silicon breast implants off the market! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:30 pm    Post subject:

"reasonably firm footing" Wow!! That's a resounding cheer for this booming economy that everyone around here keeps talking about.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject:

Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I remember when Greenspan replaced Paul Volcker. Paul was always one of my role models and Greenspan was a protege' of Volcker. I was kind of apprehensive about him. But he has proven almost as good as Volcker.

And just as smart.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:02 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "booming economy" types of posts people people around here have been posting.



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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:06 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
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Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:16 pm    Post subject:

You throw out quotes as if they were actually used in fact...

There have been more than 3 threads related to the economy in as many weeks and i never saw anyone state the streets were to be paved with gold...

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
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Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
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I would ask when Greenspan ever said the streets were paved with gold. Since he hasbeen here through the clinton years as well, there must have been a time.

EJ, please provide links to that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
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Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
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That I'll agree with. I had a really tough time finding ANY job in the early 80's.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
[right][snapback]266592[/snapback][/right]


Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
[right][snapback]266599[/snapback][/right]


I would ask when Greenspan ever said the streets were paved with gold. Since he hasbeen here through the clinton years as well, there must have been a time.

EJ, please provide links to that.
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He didn't .... that's my whole point. I'm saying that people around here keep saying it's a booming economy and use Greenspan saying that the economy is on reasonably firm footing as their proof.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject:

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You throw out quotes as if they were actually used in fact...

There have been more than 3 threads related to the economy in as many weeks and i never saw anyone state the streets were to be paved with gold...

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You're right. Nobody said that. I was commenting on those TYPES of comments. I'll edit my post.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:47 pm    Post subject:

No edit required...

There are very different economies and i think other than a flat-out depression i've seen most.
The current upswing economy gets equated with a "boom" economy which it's far from. But it is an economy that is growing, it's not the groundswell that accompanies a boom.
Steady growth however small is welcomed by most economists as opposed to radical shifts in the market.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject:

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I'm saying that people around here keep saying it's a booming economy

I don't think anybody even said it was a booming economy. Only that the economy was up, jobs were up, and more jobs were being added. and that the unemployment was down. Somebody could have, but that was never my intent.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
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Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
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That I'll agree with. I had a really tough time finding ANY job in the early 80's.
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Somewhere in this forum I posted about losing my job in 1981. I had to leave the state. The Prime rate was high uemployment in my town was 21%. I will take todays economy anyday, at least if you have a decent job you can buy a house with a IR lower than what 12-15% back then.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:13 pm    Post subject:

Thanx for the reminder , Sip...
How quickly we forget how trying those years were for many.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:38 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
[right][snapback]266592[/snapback][/right]


Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
[right][snapback]266599[/snapback][/right]


I would ask when Greenspan ever said the streets were paved with gold. Since he hasbeen here through the clinton years as well, there must have been a time.

EJ, please provide links to that.
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He didn't .... that's my whole point. I'm saying that people around here keep saying it's a booming economy and use Greenspan saying that the economy is on reasonably firm footing as their proof.
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So may I infer that since greenspan did not say it in the 90s, then they were terrible times as well?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:39 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
[right][snapback]266592[/snapback][/right]


Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
[right][snapback]266599[/snapback][/right]



That I'll agree with. I had a really tough time finding ANY job in the early 80's.
[right][snapback]266622[/snapback][/right]


Somewhere in this forum I posted about losing my job in 1981. I had to leave the state. The Prime rate was high uemployment in my town was 21%. I will take todays economy anyday, at least if you have a decent job you can buy a house with a IR lower than what 12-15% back then.
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I was luckier. Lost mine in 90 and 03. Worked out for me!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject:

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Sorry but I will take the word of Alan Greenspan, the Head of The Fed  RB. who is the #1 Economist in the country over that of a member of this forums.
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I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm just saying that the term "reasonably firm footing" is not quite the "They're going to be paving the streets with gold" type of economy people around here talk about.
[right][snapback]266592[/snapback][/right]


Nobody has said that the roads are paved with gold. One has to work for what they have. The economy was quite worse in 1977-85 than it is today.
[right][snapback]266599[/snapback][/right]



That I'll agree with. I had a really tough time finding ANY job in the early 80's.
[right][snapback]266622[/snapback][/right]


Somewhere in this forum I posted about losing my job in 1981. I had to leave the state. The Prime rate was high uemployment in my town was 21%. I will take todays economy anyday, at least if you have a decent job you can buy a house with a IR lower than what 12-15% back then.
[right][snapback]266633[/snapback][/right]


As I recall, my father lost his job in the late 70's too. His company packed it's bags and left. It was a tough time.
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