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vbMark
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Gary66
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| No thnks one needs the .NET framework to run your program.
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vbMark
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No thnks one needs the .NET framework to run your program.
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Microsoft hater's rule #1 - Always blame Bill Gates.
Microsoft hater's rule #2 - If you can't possibly blame Bill Gates blame Microsoft.
Microsoft hater's rule #3 - If Rule #2 does not work, go back to rule #1.
Thank you for that well thought out exposition on the pros and cons of the .NET framework.
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Gary66
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No thnks one needs the .NET framework to run your program.
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Microsoft hater's rule #1 - Always blame Bill Gates.
Microsoft hater's rule #2 - If you can't possibly blame Bill Gates blame Microsoft.
Microsoft hater's rule #3 - If Rule #2 does not work, go back to rule #1.
Thank you for that well thought out exposition on the pros and cons of the .NET framework.
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I don't hate anyone. The cons are that I don't need any bloatware, which is what .NET is. |
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vbMark
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I don't hate anyone. The cons arte that I don't need any bloatware, which is what .NET is.
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bloat·ware
n. Informal
Software with large, often unused additional features.
What large, unused additional features of .NET are you referring to?
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Gary66
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All of it. I do not need nor want the .NET framework. I also do not use programs that require it. Is that hard for you to understand? I have nothing against your program per se other than the prerequisite to run it. The .NET framework is full of large, often unused additional features. To learn more about the .NET Framework Click Here
It is good that you point that out up front on your site. Others have not. |
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jereece
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I can't think of a time that I would want a web page to refresh on any frequency and if I did I would not want it to be random. I don't keep any web pages open to monitor it. Most web pages like news sites already refresh every few minutes. I must be missing something because I see no use for this.
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jeber
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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I can offer a good example of a use for that.
When possible, I have the forum open on my laptop at work all day. Every time I want to see what's going on, I have to refresh the page. It would be cool to have a way in which software did the refreshing for me so all I had to do was look at the page.
However, I have .NET 1.1 installed, not 2.0 as I have other MS programs that I use that require 1.1. As I understand it, you can't have both 1.1 and 2.0 running at the same time. True? Or can I have them both by installing to separate directories and not allowing 2.0 to overwrite 1.1? |
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vbMark
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All of it. I do not need nor want the .NET framework. I also do not use programs that require it. Is that hard for you to understand? I have nothing against your program per se other than the prerequisite to run it. The .NET framework is full of large, often unused additional features. To learn more about the .NET Framework Click Here
It is good that you point that out up front on your site. Others have not.
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Just as an aside. The .NET framework allows programmers to make their programs about 10kb in size instead of 10MB.
So instead of installing 20 programs at 10MB each you install the .NET framework once and then very small programs.
It's a different way of looking at things. Soon every Windows computer will have this anyway.
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I can offer a good example of a use for that.
When possible, I have the forum open on my laptop at work all day. Every time I want to see what's going on, I have to refresh the page. It would be cool to have a way in which software did the refreshing for me so all I had to do was look at the page.
However, I have .NET 1.1 installed, not 2.0 as I have other MS programs that I use that require 1.1. As I understand it, you can't have both 1.1 and 2.0 running at the same time. True? Or can I have them both by installing to separate directories and not allowing 2.0 to overwrite 1.1?
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I am a full time .NET developer. You can have versions 1.1 and 2.x running on the same PC at the same time. I have it on several PCs and in fact as a developer I switch back and forth developing in both throughout the day.
It will not be an issue and it will open you up to the next generation of Windows software. |
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jereece
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| When possible, I have the forum open on my laptop at work all day. Every time I want to see what's going on, I have to refresh the page. It would be cool to have a way in which software did the refreshing for me so all I had to do was look at the page. |
I would be fired if I did that. Besides, I have too many other things going on at work to keep any web page open and refreshing like this. Don't get me wrong, I like Lockergnome and usually visit it daily if I can. But to keep it open all day long and frequently refreshing to see what's going on seems like an addiction. I have too many other things to do.
Just my opinion, no harm intended. 
Jim
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jeber
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I'll tell you how I manage that. I have a very understanding and geeky boss. I have a place for my laptop that's out of the way and within 6' of her router so I can share her DSL connection. I only glance at it in passing, and never stop longer than 2-3 minutes to read a thread (but I do bookmark a lot of things to check later  ) or reply to something. In other words, I try not to abuse the privilege. I also use it for work. We're maintaining our Website from it, drafting our newsletter on it, all using my copy of Dreamweaver.
So if I can know that each time I pass by I'm seeing a reasonably fresh view, that would be cool and useful. Couseful. |
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JimTheMuso
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| If you, like me, use Avant browser (which. although a wraparound of IE6, is brilliant), that function is included under the Navigation menu. |
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vbMark
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If you, like me, use Avant browser (which. although a wraparound of IE6, is brilliant), that function is included under the Navigation menu.
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Just curious, can you set it to a random interval and minimize it to the system tray? |
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tbernstein
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I have .net on my PC apparently.
Although not massive my HD can fit it in without it making any big bite out of my available storage.
As a way of making small peices of programme code do powerful things it's only an exension of the .dll and VBruntime concepts.
It's all too easy to be precious about large and unwarranted software, but there's a difference between a big programme or framework and a redundant of sloppily coded one. |
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JimTheMuso
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Not random no. Seconds 10 30 - minutes 1 2 5 10 15 and (as has tabbed browsing) can be any or all windows and can minimize any or all windows. Also whole browser can be minimized to system tray. |
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goretsky
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Hello,
This sounds like a fairly useful application for tech support agents who might have to monitor a web-based forum.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky
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seaeagle
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If you use Firefox, there is an extension that will allow automatic reloading/refreshing:
mozdev.org - reloadevery: index |
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