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Phylis Sophical

Joined: Aug 02, 2003 Posts: 246
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:04 am Post subject: |
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| this is for a friend. Any suggestions on getting a stuck floppy out of the drive? she's opened the little door and tried to dislodge it but it won't move. Probably a stupid question but does one dare stick something in there and try to pry it out?
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hooNos

Joined: Mar 22, 2004 Posts: 301
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Sounds like she needs a new drive & disk. 
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ZEUS_GB

Joined: Jan 14, 2003 Posts: 5065
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 11:26 am Post subject: |
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That wouldn't be a good idea!
The best bet for removing the disk would be to investigate why it's stuck by removing the top of the floppy drive. |
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RaximKoron

Joined: Apr 11, 2004 Posts: 61
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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from experience here... the worst thing you can do is stick somethin' in there (very far) like say... ohh, a butter knife or something.
Ohh sure, the disk'll pop right out, but you have a good chance of screwin' up somethin' vital in there (like the read/write head), and thas just not good (thus why I haven't had a floppy drive in my computer for a good 2 years... I've learned to live without one, instead of replacing it though )
One thing 'bout ripin' the top of the drive off, is that don't touch anything in there if you don't know what it is... 'f you bump the read/write head, it'll be off calibration, and could possibly damage disks in there, or just not read them correctly anymore... and very few companies (if any) will recalibrate dem heads. |
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usasma

Joined: May 06, 2003 Posts: 5007
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| As the others have said, be werrry, werrry caweful if you're gonna stick something in there. I've had success with a butter knife and only using it to try and lift the disk from the edge that you can see (by catching the seam on the side - don't go under it!). |
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WildBlueMekaLizard

Joined: Jun 19, 2003 Posts: 1208
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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I remember the old Mac's used to support had an emergency eject hole you could ram a straightened paperclip in there and the disk would pop right out. Most CD drives have them, wonder why not the PC floppies? :blink:
Anywho, I'd use a tweezers (while the machine was off and unplugged) and grab the very end of the floppy disk and kind of wiggle it up/down until I could figure out why it wasnt coming out. If you wiggle (the disk) while pushing the eject button it may just come out for you. |
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Phylis Sophical

Joined: Aug 02, 2003 Posts: 246
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks everyone. just as I thought, but then, figured there might be some clever way. A trip to the repair shop is in order then. Thanks again |
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horsecharles

Joined: Sep 24, 2003 Posts: 4632
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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you may just want to buy a floppy drive yourselves, can be had for under $ 10 ...
remove floppy and test drive to make sure it won't damage future disks first: ftp://ftp.msd.com/testdriv.com
hate to think what the shop will charge you |
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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you may just want to buy a floppy drive yourselves, can be had for under $ 10 ...
remove floppy and test drive to make sure it won't damage future disks first: ftp://ftp.msd.com/testdriv.com
hate to think what the shop will charge you |
By all means, a new FD will cost less than your service charge at the PC repair shop. |
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goretsky

Joined: Dec 07, 2002 Posts: 9113
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Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
This is a 3.5" floppy diskette drive, correct?
If so, in my experience the most likely reason for a "stuck" floppy diskette is because the little sliding door or "shutter" which exposes magnetic media to the floppy diskette drive has become jammed open and will not close.
The shutter is spring-loaded and will normally close when the eject button is pressed, but if it shutter is stuck open for some reason the eject button may be prevented from depressing fully to eject the floppy diskette from the floppy diskette drive.
It might be possible to remove the floppy diskette from the floppy diskette drive by using a small pair of needle-nose pliers to securely grasp the floppy diskette and pull it straight out, but there does exist the possibility that this procedure will damage the floppy diskette drive. Still, since they are relatively inexpensive to replace your friend might want to consider doing this.
Your friend can test to see if the problem with the floppy diskette's shutter by trying to slide it back-and-forth after the diskette has been removed. If it is loose or it sticks when it slides, remove the shutter by lifting it up and pulling it away from the body of the diskette. With a little tugging it should pop off, along with the small spring mechanism. These can be thrown away. Now your friend can copy the contents of the floppy diskette to a new one or to the computer's hard disk drive and discard the old one.
Regards,
Aryeh Goretsky |
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Phylis Sophical

Joined: Aug 02, 2003 Posts: 246
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| If you stick needle nose pliers in there, I assume there is a possiblity of frying the thing. No big deal since the other option is to buy a new drive anyhow. But would it fry any other part of the computer or just the floppy drive? |
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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 2:11 am Post subject: |
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:rolleyes:
If it's turned off and unplugged then you can't fry anything, I've taken quite a few floppies out with small pliers. |
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goretsky

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Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
I would not recommend attempting removal of a stuck floppy diskette while the computer is powered. While I think the likelihood of shorting something out is small--after all, the metal shutter of the floppy diskette has to travel down the same path--it still would probably be a good idea to turn the computer off first. Just in case.
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Aryeh Goretsky |
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lenjack

Joined: Dec 07, 2002 Posts: 92
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever you do, DON'T take it for service. you may end up with a $75 repair bill when all you need is a $10 drive. |
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Ehwaz001

Joined: Jan 10, 2004 Posts: 1236
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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I would apply a little epoxy on a piece of wood and stick it to the floppy. Let dry all the epoxy and then try to *gently* pull the floppy out of the floppy driver.
If the data on the floppy is not life-saving data, then I would just throw everything in the trash bin and buy a new one, it only costs about 10 bucks!
Greetings,
Ehwaz001
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Phylis Sophical

Joined: Aug 02, 2003 Posts: 246
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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| Her husband got it out but they didn't say how. Will report back when they let me know. I like the epoxy idea. Never heard that before. |
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Phylis Sophical

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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:41 am Post subject: |
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| Just got word that he used a tiny pair of needle nosed pliers. He's an electrician so probably very well versed in the dangers of a short. All's well and thanks again to all. |
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Ehwaz001

Joined: Jan 10, 2004 Posts: 1236
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: |
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I would advise you to not use this drive regulary any more, cause if it happened once, it could happen again, maybe even sooner then you think.
Beware and whenever it gets stuck again, save yourself the trip to the electrician and stop at you computer hardware supplier to buy a new floppy drive.
It would save you a lot of trips to this electrician...
Greetings,
Ehwaz001
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