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seaeagle




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:46 pm
Post subject: End of an era: FCC drops Morse code testing for amateurs

End of an Era: FCC to Drop Morse Testing for All Amateur License Classes
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NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 15, 2006 -- In an historic move, the FCC has acted to drop the Morse code requirement for all Amateur Radio license classes. The Commission today adopted, but hasn't yet released, the long-awaited Report and Order (R&O) in WT Docket 05-235, the "Morse code" proceeding. Also today, the FCC adopted an Order on Reconsideration in WT Docket 04-140 -- the "omnibus" proceeding -- modifying the Amateur Radio rules in response to an ARRL request to accommodate automatically controlled narrowband digital stations on 80 meters in the wake of rule changes that became effective today at 12:01 AM Eastern Time. The Commission said it will designate the 3585 to 3600 kHz frequency segment for such operations, although the segment will remain available for CW, RTTY and data as it has been. In a break from what's been the usual practice in Amateur Radio proceedings, the FCC only issued a public notice at or about the close of business today and not the actual Report & Order, so some details -- including the effective dates of the two orders -- remain uncertain. Currently, Amateur Radio applicants for General and higher class licenses have to pass a 5 WPM Morse code test to operate on HF. Today's R&O will eliminate that requirement all around.

"This change eliminates an unnecessary regulatory burden that may discourage current Amateur Radio operators from advancing their skills and participating more fully in the benefits of Amateur Radio," the FCC said. The ARRL had asked the FCC to retain the 5 WPM for Amateur Extra class applicants only. The FCC proposed earlier to drop the requirement across the board, however, and it held to that decision in today's R&O.

Perhaps more important, the FCC's action in WT Docket 05-235 appears to put all Technician licensees on an equal footing: Once the R&O goes into effect, holders of Technician class licenses will have equivalent HF privileges, whether or not they've passed the 5 WPM Element 1 Morse examination. The FCC said the R&O in the Morse code docket would eliminate a disparity in the operating privileges for the Technician and Technician Plus class licensees -- something the ARRL also has asked the Commission to correct following the release of its July 2005 Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM) in WT Docket 05-235. (continued)

I guess it confirms that we really are in the 21st Century. Very Happy
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pcrattail




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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 3:56 pm
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This is Stupid ..... with a CAPITAL S.

Haven't we ... in this world ... learned that even obsolete things HAVE a
place in our lives.

Mark my words ........ there WILL come a time when NEW technology will
fail us. We WILL have to "go back" to something less ..... high-tech.

Poking fun.......... BUT ....... Look at the MOVIE Independence Day ......
Had it NOT been for MORSE CODE, we would be TOAST.

In "Survival Training", you are TAUGHT to use Flint Rock to make a FIRE.
YES ....... it is OBSOLETE, but ..... IF you ain't got matches, OR a lighter,
AND it is dark outside.......... YOU will SURE wish you had that Flint Rock !!!

There are SO many things that WE ALMOST lost from PAST Civilizations...
Just because over time IT was decided that THEIR ways were OBSOLETE.
NOW ...........

When will WE stop being so ARGENT, in thinking OUR NEWER ways are
Superior and are FOOL PROOF ?
..
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:59 am
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As a Ham Radio operator of many years, can I make a comment?

Thanks.

I'm one of those who can take a written test on electronics, rules and reg's etc. and pass it 100%, but,,,,,I can't copy code. My brain ain't wired like that.

When I passed my Novice test, it was a real struggle to copy just one sentence at 5wpm. When I went to Chicago to take my test for Tech, I passed the test without ever using any scratch paper or the two #2 lead pencils they gave me to work out formulas, etc.

All the time I was writing that test, I could overhear the code being piped to the headphones of the guys taking their code tests. Try as I may, I could not copy any of it. I came home with my Tech lic. and never looked back.

I can still send an SOS (..._ _ _...) even send CQ, but that's about it.
Like "AM" is seldom used by hams any more (called Ancient Mode) morse code is also antiquated and really should be dropped.

Using computers and satellite relays, is much more efficient and exacting than the old morse code sent via radio waves. If I absolutely HAD to use code, I'd use a keyboard and a code generator. I'd need the computer to decode the incoming messages anyway. Crying or Very sad

Ok, that's my personal opinion, observations and conclusions.

The Shadow Cool
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tbernstein




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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:54 pm
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I have no real stand point on Morse (and don't know a dot from a dash), other than the sheer prejudice that something shouldn't be got rid of until it's shown that actually gets in the way.
That being said, a few weeks back the BBC (radio) asked some Morse expert to tap out a message for the audience to workout. They gave him a short sentence to do.
And the tapping went on and on and on..... the end of the programme fast approached. There was an umming and erring from the presenters. Then there were attempts to break the flow. And still the tapping continued. And continued......
The embarrassment was tangible. It will probably count as one of the funnier moments in radio history.
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seatech




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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:19 pm
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Shadow, I too have been a ham for a long time (licensed as Novice in 1949, Gereral in 1950, Extra in 1957) and sympathize with you. Have also been a PC tech since 1989! but i think the class Extra should always include the code! After all it IS Extra and auta give the owner a sense of pride. Is code obsolete? Not when you need it as pointed out by pcrattail! I think it diminishes from the whole concept of what a Ham is, but what do I know? BTW Shadow, I used ur registry hack to stop balloon popups on seven XP SP2 machines all with good results. Admire your knowledge. And I'm really surprised that there have been so little comment re seaegle's post. 73, W6XXX AE12-76E
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:31 pm
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After spending almost 24x7 on 2M while I ran service calls all over the midwest for many, many years, I've really burned out on it.

I ran a Yeasu handy talky into a 35W, bi-directional amp, into a 200+watt final amp to a 5/8 wave antenna on my car roof. I could work repeaters 100 miles away.

I have only a little Icom handytalky now and almost never use it.
I still have the little Tokyo High Power 35 w. amp, for use in the mobile.

All we have down here is a bunch of old fahrts that want to rule the channels and I'm sick of them and their high handed ways.

I've got the last lic. I'll ever have and what the FCC does with the code, is beyond my caring. I'm currently a Tech+. Nuff said on that.

You can get all my registry tweaks by looking at the file on my
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73's, and 88's to the good looking ones,

The Shadow Cool
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:53 am
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A Cute Code story:

In the town I lived in years ago, in Ill., we had a ham radio dept in a local electronics house. The manager of the ham radio dept (lets call him Joe) would get in a burn-out contest, using Morse Code, with another local ham (Tim) on a weekly basis. It was the topic of many a conversation around the coffee shops.

When the first Morse Code Keyboard came into the Ham Radio dept the manager (Joe) took it home and hooked it up to his low band radio.
When the evening came around for the weekly code session (burn out) with his friend, the Code Keyboard was initially set at 25 wpm. As the session progressed, the speed dial was increased to 35, then 45, then 55, etc. Well, the winner of the contest was a foregone conclusion.

It was several days before the truth about the code keyboard finally came out. Tim was furious and all the local hams got a big laugh out of the whole thing.

For those purists who still want to use the Morse Code, there is absolutely nothing stopping them. It surely has NOT been banned. Most of the new Hams today are also computer users and if they needed to send code, they'd just do it via a computer/radio hookup.

When the 2 Meter Repeater first became popular, the ID'er was always in Morse Code. Today, almost all repeaters ID in plain English.
It's a good thing too, because I never could copy those M-Code ID'ers. Crying or Very sad

Happy New Year, Y'all,
Shadow Cool
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pc7wizard




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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:26 pm
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Nice, Shadow! Good Story!
I am currently studying for my Tech+ license, but i guess i can drop the + now! Merry Christmas to me from the FCC! -- I do agree that Morse Code will not go away, in noisy and crowded conditions you can still crank thru a MC message! Very Happy

BTW, there was a contest on Jay Leno's show with 2 kids and their text message phones going up against 2 Morse Code operators!!! Results???

You guessed it! The MC'ers smoked the cell phone kiddies by over a minute!!!

The audience could not believe it! Neither could the text message kids!

Hams still provide Emergency Communication Links here at the plant, interplant and intraplant comms in the SoCal area during Earthquake Drills! Don't leave home without your HT!!! Very Happy

Oh, yea, a story...I was in a motorwhale boat in the Bay of Sicily one fine winter afternoon, when we began to take on water, as the coxswain turned the boat back toward the ship, the rudder froze...there were 15 people in the boat, turning slow doughnuts in the bay, slowly sinking, & I was the only one to take action.

I picked up a Battle Lantern & signaled the ship, ...---... over & over while the water crawled higher & sailors senior to me were in full panic, ...---... , when I saw the Admiral's Gig, I turned the light to it & kept pounding out the code...it was headed for our ship & disappeared behind it...I saw a signal light from the Bridge, but I couldn't read Morse...I could only send it, and then only one segment, learned when I was 8, ...---... (SOS)

Well, the Gig suddenly shot out from behind the ship and turned toward us, and I pointed the light back at it and kept signaling...& when her bow rose out of the water as her coxswain mashed the throttles full, I thought my heart would jump right out of my chest! I did NOT want to swim in that cold, dark, salty, oily water!

When I finally reached the AF Base NCO Club that night (the only one on the boat to finally go ashore), I had 6 rum & coke's just to get the chill off...then the heavy drinking started! Very Happy

Sam Morse was toasted many times at my table that night, and also the Ham who tought that 8 yo how to send an SOS!

No, Morse Code will never die, for someone will always have a need to interrupt a tone with silence, sometime, somewhere...

Cheers! Smile


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:44 pm
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Here's the link to the video clip I was talking about:

http://www.tarc.org/index.php?load=leno

Check this out for a laugh!

Thanks to the Temple Amateur Radio Club for hosting this piece of history!

Cheers! Very Happy
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:22 pm
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So will this mean that mobile (cell) phones will stop that very annoying fake SOS ringtone??? Wink
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pc7wizard




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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:13 pm
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One could only hope so! Laughing

Cheers! Very Happy
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pc7wizard




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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:15 pm
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W6RO - the Queen Mary in Long Beach, Ca

http://www.arrl.org/news/features/2007/01/11/1/?nc=1

For any Hams out there who have a little bit of time to donate to an awesome cause...

Cheers! Very Happy
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OkelyDokely




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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:06 pm
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Why is is that so many people misspell Morse code as Moris Code?

I have to admit that in all my years involved with radio that I never did learn Morse. Well.. I was mostly in the commercial radio side of things versus hams.

Dit-Dah!!
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:54 pm
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Laughing Laughing

In the novice class that I enrolled in, we had one instructor for theory and one for the code.

I wound up teaching the part of the theory class that dealt with Solid State Electronics. The instructor had no idea how to teach it. He was an old tube man. (Valves for our friends in the UK)

In the code class I barely passed the 5wpm receiving test, but on the sending test I rapped it off at about 15wpm.
My code teacher joked that I failed the sending test at 5wpm, but passed the sending test for General at 15wpm.
I got my lic.

I think I can still send a CQ or SOS, on a key, but that's about it.
I type at about 100wpm though, so I could use a code generating keyboard real well. Wink

Code from a key can be really sloppy, but code from a keyboard is always perfect.


New enrollments in amateur radio have soared since the code requirement was dropped. Had it NOT been dropped, ham radio would have just died out along with the old brass-pounders.

73's to all,

The Doctor _._. __._
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:46 pm
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Well, since I last posted on this thread, I have now passed the General Class exam, missed 2...ok I can live with that!!! Cool

The 5 wpm code requirement going away finally got me motivated to get into the hobby, I'm glad I did! Very Happy

I can send an SOS, but other than that, I'm only up to 3 wpm...not much motivation to go faster...someday... Very Happy

Helped 30 new hams get their license on Dec 15, 07, taught a study class on the Technician questions...it was a lot of fun...

See you on the ether...
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