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silkysix



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:51 pm    Post subject:

This is my first post. I apologize if I am dredging up an old problem that has been covered a bunch of times already, but here goes!

I have two identical eMachines T2542 computers. Last week one of them would not start up. No beeps, no LEDs, no response when the start up button was pressed. However, the PS fan was always running whenever the power cord was plugged in. I thought it may be a PS failure so I swapped the power supplies. ( My bad!) The original failed computer still did not work with the known good PS. The second computer worked fine for an afternoon with the PS from the failed computer but would not start up the next morning. Now, both computers are down! They act as if a fuse is blown. I purchased a new 250W PS at Best Buy. It did not help either computer.

I tested the power on switch. It is good.
I can not see anything that looks burnt or blown.

If the cpu fan is bad will that prevent a power on?
Could I have fried the fan or motherboard in the second computer by putting in a bad PS?

What should I try next?
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Rons



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 12:45 pm    Post subject:

Welcome to the forum.

Put in the New 250 PS in either system. Disconnect all non-essential hardware, ie hard disk, CD, floppy [if you have one]. Does the system now boot to the BIOS screen?

Do the same on the other system. Results?

Let us know. :hmm:
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silkysix



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject:

Quote:

Welcome to the forum.

Put in the New 250 PS in either system. Disconnect all non-essential hardware, ie hard disk, CD, floppy [if you have one]. Does the system now boot to the BIOS screen?

Do the same on the other system. Results?

Let us know. :hmm:

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Paragon



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:24 am    Post subject:

I have the same problem with an identical emachine T2542. Here's the problem description.

When I start to power up, the Start/Run LED flickers... and I can hear the mobo fan sort of pulse to the flicker of the LED. If I 'pulse' the power chord, I can get the mobo fan to run at full speed, but I never get any drive LED to light or anything on the screen. The PS fan appears to run everytime the pwer chord is engaged.

Of course, I have to unplug the machine to shut down.

Doesn't this sound like a PS problem? With the pulsing and all? :hmm:
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Morbius



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:23 am    Post subject:

Power supply is bad or just too weak to power up the system.

Or,,,,some component in the system is shorted and preventing the boot up.
The PSU will not start if there's a shorted part in the system or just too much of a load.
I've seen adding just one little case fan, crash a PSU. Talk about under-powered! :thumbdown:

Look for bulging capacitors on the motherboard. If they are bulging, they are at least partially shorted.

Never replace a 250 or 300 w. PSU with a like sized PSU. That's not enought reserve power for todays systems.
Start at 400w and go right UP from there.

The day I built my system, I removed the 300w PSU that came with the case and installed a 400w. Since then I've upgraded again to a 550w, dual fan model. I know I'm not going to overload my PSU by jacking in another hard drive or some other component.

Good Luck with your eMachines. The old ones were junk,,,,,but I do like the brand new ones.
They come with some good stuff installed and have much less Bloatware installed than the other name brand PC's. That makes installation a lot simpler.

:cheers:
Morbius Cool
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Paragon



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject:

If I disconnect the everything but the hard drive and it STILL doesn't boot, would that increase the possibility that the PS has failed?

I checked for bloated caps ... didn't find any.

Can a VOM check on the leads tell you much .. or do you have to check voltages under load make sure it's failed?
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adkmom



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject:

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If I disconnect the everything but the hard drive and it STILL doesn't boot, would that increase the possibility that the PS has failed?

I checked for bloated caps ... didn't find any.

Can a VOM check on the leads tell you much .. or do you have to check voltages under load make sure it's failed?


Disconnect everything except video- just try to get a display & into the BIOS screen.

Clear the CMOS using jumpers- if your board has them. Try to power up again-

Tracy
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Paragon



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject:



Quote:
Disconnect everything except video- just try to get a display & into the BIOS screen.

Clear the CMOS using jumpers- if your board has them. Try to power up again-

Tracy



I cleared the CMOS and restarted .... the power appears to be running smoothly! :ohmy: No 'flickering', 'surging' of the CPU fan, etc ....

I'll reconnect everything and see if I can get a display.
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Paragon



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject:

Quote:

Quote:
Disconnect everything except video- just try to get a display & into the BIOS screen.

Clear the CMOS using jumpers- if your board has them. Try to power up again-

Tracy



I cleared the CMOS and restarted .... the power appears to be running smoothly! :ohmy: No 'flickering', 'surging' of the CPU fan, etc ....

I'll reconnect everything and see if I can get a display.


After clearing the CMOS ... hooked up the monitor ... NOTHING. Sad In fact .. now I can't get the Start/Run LED to light even. The PS fan and the CPU fan runs .... but some sometimes I still have to toggle the power to get the CPU fan going.

I'm going to try another power supply ... but there's not much else I can do.
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adkmom



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject:

Unplug the tower (just pull the power off the tower itself), push the power button, clear the cmos. Try again- video & ram only...

Tracy
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goretsky



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:24 am    Post subject:

Hello,

If you look carefully around inside the case, does anything appear to be shorting out, for example, could the motherboard be making contact with the chassis anywhere?

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky
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adkmom



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject:

Quote:

Hello,

If you look carefully around inside the case, does anything appear to be shorting out, for example, could the motherboard be making contact with the chassis anywhere?

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky


Very good idea. I always build the mainboard, RAM, CPU- out of the case- then test before installing. Easier to troubleshoot w/o having that extra variable (& no reaching around down inside the case to make adjustments),

Tracy
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f-w



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject:

Wow, I'm faced with a similar problem on the same PC. Someone asked me to fix their Emachine T2542 computer. It basically didn't turn on. I did the PSU (250W) check by shorting the green and black wires on the 20pin connector, and sure enough, it was the power supply. So, I got a new one (300W), which passes the check. However, the comp still doesn't turn on.

When the PSU switch is turned on, the ring of light turns on (which should only do so when PC is on, it's connected through the 'power LED' cable to the motherboard). If I turn off the PSU, the ring of light stays on for around 7 seconds, then turns off.

I've read online that to check if the PC power switch is broken, I should short the 2 pins where the "power sw" cable goes on the motherboard. I've tried that, but nothing happened.

Does this mean it's the mobo? If it is, are there other ways to confirm it?

Thanks,
f-w
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adkmom



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject:

Quote:

Wow, I'm faced with a similar problem on the same PC. Someone asked me to fix their Emachine T2542 computer. It basically didn't turn on. I did the PSU (250W) check by shorting the green and black wires on the 20pin connector, and sure enough, it was the power supply. So, I got a new one (300W), which passes the check. However, the comp still doesn't turn on.

When the PSU switch is turned on, the ring of light turns on (which should only do so when PC is on, it's connected through the 'power LED' cable to the motherboard). If I turn off the PSU, the ring of light stays on for around 7 seconds, then turns off.

I've read online that to check if the PC power switch is broken, I should short the 2 pins where the "power sw" cable goes on the motherboard. I've tried that, but nothing happened.

Does this mean it's the mobo? If it is, are there other ways to confirm it?

Thanks,
f-w


Found this tidbit on another site:

With the power supply completely unplugged from the system, [can leave it in the case], simply jumper pin 14 [green wire] to any of the black [ground wires]. As long as you keep that connection made the power supply fan should come on and stay on. If the supply works, then, for some reason the mobo logic circuit is not working. Unlikely, but it could be a bad switch. Check that by unplugging the switch wires at the mobo and use a small slot screwdriver to short those two pins to gether momentarily, the PS should be plugged into the mobo for this test [no need to plug it into anything else in the system for this test].

If the PS is good and the switch good [screwdriver jumper didn't work], the mobo is likely the problem. That mobo logic circuit does NOT need the CPU, memory or anything else for it to work. [just the power supply connection and the 5 volt standby voltage that it applies to pin 9].

Bad PS may have killed that board. Emachines XP is tied to the BIOS- change the board & likely you will not be able to load XP again (sigh...).

Tracy

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f-w



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for the excerpt. As you can see from my post, I pretty much already did everything they suggested. Seems like the damn mobo is dead, along with windows. Great! I can't wait to deliver the news to the owner. Smile

There is one little thing that I haven't mentioned though. I haven't done the shorting of the green and black wires that many times. But on previous good PSUs, the fan came on (if the PSU was good). However, when shorting the wires on the new PSU I bought, the PSU fan only turns 1/3 of a revolution and stops. Is this some protection circuit in the fan, or can this new PSU be bad as well?

Thanks,
f-w
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I_compute



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:09 am    Post subject:

I had a simillar issue with an emachin PSU will not start. I bought a new mainboard ASROCK 7 with A socket for AMD. I put it in and now is the oposite problem power will not shut off and CMOS screen does not appears. Any help.
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adkmom



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject:

Quote:

Thanks for the excerpt. As you can see from my post, I pretty much already did everything they suggested. Seems like the damn mobo is dead, along with windows. Great! I can't wait to deliver the news to the owner. Smile

Thanks,
f-w


Act quickly (today is the last day) & they can get a great OS for free w/free ship:

Xandros OS Standard

Tracy Wink
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LlamaMan



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject:

Quote:

Thanks for the excerpt. As you can see from my post, I pretty much already did everything they suggested. Seems like the damn mobo is dead, along with windows. Great! I can't wait to deliver the news to the owner. Smile

There is one little thing that I haven't mentioned though. I haven't done the shorting of the green and black wires that many times. But on previous good PSUs, the fan came on (if the PSU was good). However, when shorting the wires on the new PSU I bought, the PSU fan only turns 1/3 of a revolution and stops. Is this some protection circuit in the fan, or can this new PSU be bad as well?

Thanks,
f-w

I have an Emachine 1840 and I too have had the same issues. I too thought that the power supply was too weak to power the machine. But what I found to be true was the capacitors around the CPU socket were blown. I talked to a buddy of mine, and he found that there was a bad batch of capacitors that came out of China or Twain, that had a tendency to blow. I had about 5 capacitors that had blown on my MOBO. Check this out on yours, I am quite certain that you will fine that yours are blown too. The capacitor will have a little mess on the top of it, it will not be clean. Good Luck.

LlamaMan
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