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brat



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:49 pm    Post subject: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards

For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards


Be sure to read 'Scene 3'

SCENE 1. This is a new one. People sure stay busy trying to cheat us, don't they??
A friend went to the local gym and placed his belongings in the locker. After the workout and a shower, he came out, saw the locker open, and thought to himself, "Funny, I thought I locked the locker.
Hmmmmm." He dressed and just flipped the wallet to make sure all was in order. Everything looked okay - all cards were in place

A few weeks later his credit card bill came - a whooping bill of $14,000!

He called the credit card company and started yelling at them, saying that he did not make the transactions. Customer care personnel verified that there was no mistake in the system and asked if his card had been stolen.

"No," he said, but then took out his wallet, pulled out the credit card, and yep - you guessed it - a switch had been made. An expired similar credit card from the same bank was in the wallet The thief broke into his locker at the gym and switched cards.

Verdict: The credit card issuer said since he did not report the card missing earlier, he would have to pay the amount owed to them. How much did he have to pay for items he did not buy? $9,000! Why were there no calls made to verify the amount swiped? Small amounts rarely trigger a "warning bell" with some credit card companies. It just so happens that all the small amounts added up to big one!

SCENE 2. A man at a local restaurant paid for his meal with his credit card. The bill for the meal came, he signed it, and the waitress folded the receipt and passed the credit card along.



Usually, he would just take it and place it in his wallet or pocket. Funny enough, though, he actually took a look at the card and, lo and behold, it was the expired card of another person. He called the waitress and she looked perplexed. She took it back, apologized, and hurried back to the counter under the watchful eye of the man. All the waitress did while walking to the counter was wave the wrong expired card to the counter cashier, and the counter cashier immediately looked down and took out the real card. No exchange of words --- nothing! She took it and came back to the man with an apology.




Verdict: Make sure the credit cards in your wallet are yours. Check the name on the card every time you sign for something and/or the card is taken away for even a short period of time. Many people just take back the credit card without even looking at it, "assuming" that it has to be theirs. FOR YOUR OWN SAKE, DEVELOP THE HABIT OF CHECKING YOUR CREDIT CARD EACH TIME IT IS RETURNED TO YOU AFTER A TRANSACTION!

SCENE 3: Yesterday I went into a pizza restaurant to pick up an order that I had called in. I paid by using my Visa Check Card which, of course, is linked directly to my checking account.

The young man behind the counter took my card, swiped it, then laid it on the counter as he waited for the approval, which is pretty standard procedure. While he waited, he picked up his cell phone and started dialing.

I noticed the phone because it is the same model I have, but nothing seemed out of the ordinary. Then I heard a click that sounded like my phone sounds when I take a picture. He then gave me back my card but kept the phone in his hand as if he was still pressing buttons. Meanwhile, I'm thinking: I wonder what he is taking a picture of, oblivious to what was really going on. It then dawned on me: the only thing there was my credit card, so now I'm paying close attention to what he is doing.

He set his phone on the counter, leaving it open. About five seconds later, I heard the chime that tells you that the picture has been saved.

Now I'm standing there struggling with the fact that this boy just took a picture of my credit card. Yes, he played it off well, because had we not had the same kind of phone, I probably would never have known what happened. Needless to say, I immediately canceled that card as I was walking out of the pizza parlor.

All I am saying is, be aware of your surroundings at all times. Whenever you are using your credit cards, take caution and don't be careless. Notice who is standing near you and what they are doing when you use your card. Be aware of phones because many have a camera phone these days.

When you are in a restaurant and the waiter/waitress brings your card and receipt for you to sign, make sure you scratch the number off. Some restaurants are using only the last four digits, but a lot of them are still putting the whole thing on there. I have already been a victim of credit card fraud and, believe me, it is not fun. The truth is that they can get you even when you are careful, but don't make it easy for them.

FORWARD THIS TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN THINK OF.
LET'S GET THE WORD OUT! JUST BE AWARE
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I much prefer CASH! Idea

It's still accepted in most businesses and requires you to give up NO personal information. Not even your right name. Wink

Just a thought Idea
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

TheShadow wrote:
I much prefer CASH! Idea

It's still accepted in most businesses and requires you to give up NO personal information. Not even your right name. Wink

Just a thought Idea

And if you have the cheek to ask, lots of businesses give a discount for cash Wink....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Dubious and just plain wrong.

For scene 1 or 2 to work one would have to have copies of your credit card design handy. Have you seen how many different kinds of credit card pictures and backgrounds you can get? Besides what is the point? All they need is your number. Copy down the number or even a phone pic and put the card back.

For scene 3 the guy would have to get a good image of the card and do so without looking obvious and Mr. pizza dude would have just as much opportunity to take the same info down off the master tape. Also cashiers are watched with camera of there own and he would get caught quickly doing that.

Also the information is incorrect about the fraud protection offered by your credit card company. You don't have to report a card stolen to dispute the card, else every one would just fake cards left and right and take the bank to the cleaners.

Just like ALL email warnings this is more bogus then real.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/cardscams.asp
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Gary66



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/cardscams.asp

Quote:
Status: Possible, but not common.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Did you read the rest of it or only the tag line?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

If the message served only to make people more conscious of how they use their CC's and who they let see them, then it was worth the effort.
I sure wouldn't nit-pick it to pieces.

I NEVER whip out my CC or DC in any business.
That's what "Walking Around Money" is for.
If you loose your cash, that's all you've lost.
Loose your CC or DC and you could loose your whole Identity.

Using your CC at a store like WalMart where you swipe the card yourself and it never leaves your own hand, is somewhat safe.
But I still don't like it.

Probably the safest card of them all would be a prepaid Debit Card, with the Visa or Master/Card logo on it. You could never loose more than what you've prepaid into the card.

Jus a thought,
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Shadow,

My biggest gripe is that it states that you can't do anything to dispute your charges which is blatantly incorrect. It may mislead someone that has been victimized that they can't do anything about it. Which is WHY I think it was written to begin with.

My point about pointing out all the improbables is to get people to think. If the warning is really something that is unlikely then something is suspect about the whole thing.

The whole purpose of this is MISINFORMATION. To perpetuate the mistaken idea that if you are robbed, somehow YOU are responsible for it.

The CC companies would love for people to, in error, not file claims and try to pay a part of this.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

nlinecomputers wrote:
Did you read the rest of it or only the tag line?


If you would take the time to read the link, you will see that it does apply to what Brat posted.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/cardscams.asp

The reference to snopes was not there when I posted.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:09 pm    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I don't want to argue with anyone about it.

I'll just continue to pay for my purchases with CASH, thank you very much.
Even though it's FIAT money, not worth more than Monopoly Money in all actuallity, it's still accepted at most locations, in the US anyway.

Y'all have a great day now, Y'hear?

Shadow Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: For All of Us Who Use Debit/Credit Cards [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Chip and Pin? You must have that, surely.

That being said, it occurs to me that when I took the family to the Universal Studios' theme park in Spain a few weeks ago they didn't have Chip and Pin in there, and denied that anywhere else used it either, even though, in fact, everywhere else we went in Spain, including the tiny supermarket ten minutes away, did, even with our UK pin numbers.
So maybe it's that US companies don't want to use it.
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