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mommabear

Joined: Feb 20, 2003 Posts: 6319
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: Dangerous Days - Newsweek |
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The world crisis has grown far too serious for the U.S. president to take an extended summer break.
By Michael Hirsh
Newsweek
Updated: 4:35 p.m. ET Aug 23, 2006
Aug. 23, 2006 - This is as dangerous an August as I can recall, at least since Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait 16 years ago. The Europeans are dithering over contributions to a peacekeeping force while a dangerously unstable Lebanon slips into a "security vacuum," in the words of United Nations envoy Terje Roed-Larsen. Iran is stringing along the West in negotiations as it rushes to perfect the nuclear fuel cycle—which could occur as soon as the next several months—while bidding skillfully for regional hegemony. North Korea is hinting darkly at a nuclear test after firing off missiles. And Iraq is, well, say no more.
It is the sort of moment when peace and history could be hanging in the balance for a generation to come—the kind of tipping point when American presidents can no longer leave the negotiating to underlings. They must take the world stage themselves to find a new way out, simply because no one else has the globo-oomph to do so. There is a grand American tradition behind this sort of personal involvement of America's chief executive, one that goes back almost precisely a century. Teddy Roosevelt spent much of August 1905 directing talks in Portsmouth, N.H, that prodded Japan and Russia into an agreement ending the Russo-Japanese war. Woodrow Wilson went to Paris for nearly six months between January and June of 1919 to negotiate the end of World War I. Franklin Roosevelt, though he was dying and suffered a terrible physical disability, flew halfway around the world to hash out the postwar peace at Yalta. Richard Nixon went to China, Ronald Reagan journeyed to Reykjavik and Jimmy Carter holed up at Camp David, where he tested the limits of brinksmanship with Menachem Begin and Anwar Sadat.
George W. Bush is going to Kennebunkport, where he'll test his golf skills with Poppy. ...
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This subject has been touched on before, but it bears more scrutiny in light of the current situation. It might not be as worrisome that the President prefers to delegate most of the time if the last few years hadn't shown a track record of incompetence and failures in almost everything they've had their hands on. But this is what you get when you re-elect the most disengaged President we've ever had. He's fond of saying 9/11 changed everything. It did. For everyone else but himself. |
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donrc

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| If George Bush is as stupid and incompetant and disengaged as you folks on the left would have us believe then maybe we are better off having him away from Washington as much as possible????????
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mommabear

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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You miss the point? He's away from Washington, all right, but not where he should be.  |
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donrc

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I didn't miss the point. I simply made an observation.
If we start with the supposition that Bush is horrible, then everything he does will be bad, whether he is on vacation or hard at work.
If he is in Texas, bad Bush! If he is in Washington, Bad Bush! If he is in Kennebunkport, bad Bush!
It makes it easy. We don't have to think about what he is doing because we know it is bad. BAAAAD BUSH!
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mommabear

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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But you see, the problem is it's not a supposition anymore. But is he stupid or just plain bad, a combination of the two, or does he just not care one way or the other about consequences of his actions that we and the world will have to endure after he's gone?
In any event, if any or all of the above is accurate, then you're right. It really will make no difference to our survival one way or the other if Bush can't get it together himself or find somebody else who can get it together. The world as we know it will no longer exist.
But if the world manages to survive the next two years, and in particular the United States, then hopefully the electorate will remember who is responsible for this mess; and get somebody in the next time who has the talent, knowledge, and where-with-all to begin to repair the damage Bush and his motley crew have done. |
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donrc

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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Quote:But you see, the problem is it's not a supposition anymore.
But how did you determine that? At least 50% of the country disagreed with you in the last election.
That is certainly the opinion of the MSM, but if the same election were held today I suspect that the country would say, "Bush hasn't done as well as I had hoped, but we certainly don't wan't that other guy as Commander in Chief!"
That is my opinion. Yours may vary. I do expect the republicans to pay a price in the midterm elections.
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al bundy

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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| what's this obsession with the president on vacation. is he really on vacation. does it matter if he is in the white house or on his ranch. does it mean no one can get in touch with him. what exactly does it mean. can you clarify it so i can understand what your gripe is. would you rather he gallivant all over the world like the previous president. |
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mommabear

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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| does it matter if he is in the white house or on his ranch. does it mean no one can get in touch with him. what exactly does it mean |
Don't know why you resurrected this one. It seemed to have died a natural death. But since you ask, I can give you one example. Hurricane Katrina. Nobody in Washington wanted to disturb his vacation to tell him what was going on, and I guess they don't have TV's in Texas.
You see, it's not so much that he takes a vacation. Everyone is entitled to a vacation, even the President. But he seems to operate under some kind of "Do Not Disturb Under Any Circumstances" edict when he leaves Washington. No big deal, I guess. Except a lot of people have died because of it. |
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Huapakechi

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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| he seems to operate under some kind of "Do Not Disturb Under Any Circumstances" edict . |
Something like clinton, when he was closeted with Monica Lewinski?
Hardly.
The whole function of a bureaucracy is to have less important problems handled by underlings. Had the Mayor of NO and Governor of Louisiana done their jobs for a few decades prior to and on the occasion of the storm, there would have been little or nothing for the FEMA people to do. For example, the coastal areas of Mississippi, which were hit harder than NO, suffered more damage, and have sprung back quicker. Without whining "We can't do anything unless you send us more money, we've pissed away all you've sent so far.".
The spirit of Hewie(sp) Long still lives in Louisiana. |
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mommabear

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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: Dangerous Days - Newsweek [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Putting aside you gripes about NO getting more money AFTER the disaster, in spite of the failures at the State level, and there were/are many, like I said, all one had to do was turn on the TV to know something had gone terribly wrong. The whole nation knew it! Why didn't Bush know and do something about it? |
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