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Stumped



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Close all open programs

I see End It All 2 frequently mentioned here at Lockergnome as the program to use when an application warns you to "close all open programs" or when one wants to use a defragment tool, etc. I always close all open windows, but I am seeing that other programs should likewise be closed; such as anti-virus, anti-spyware, firewall and basically anything else in the lower right-hand tray.

I have looked over the read me file in End It All 2 and the program's help file. I find it all very confusing and will have to read these things over a few times before I actually try to use this program.

Reading the internet, I find that a lot of people swear by this program. Conversely, a lot do not, but I think that they may have jumped in too quick. I will, as I said above, re-read the help files to try to avoid some of the horror stories I have read.

If you use this program, perhaps you wouldn't mind sharing what you close down and what you protect. Are there any configuration changes that need to be made from the out of box experience? Any helpful hints would be appreciated.

Thanks for reading.
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goretsky



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: Close all open programs [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Hello,

There is actually an interesting history behind all of this:

Back in the mid-1990s when Microsoft Windows 95 appeared, many of the developers of anti-virus software released new versions of their products, just like they would with any other operating system release. However, Microsoft and the various anti-virus developers did not cooperate as much as they now do, and many of these programs were written using a variety of methods that are, generally-speaking, considered poor programming practices, such as making use of undocumented APIs, modifying parts of the operating system running in memory and so forth. While these types of programming "hacks" did work, they tended to do so only when other programs that did similar things were not present. When two (or more) programs started changing the internal behavior of the operating system, it generally resulted in a lock-up or a crash due to the programs not being able to cope with the changes introduced by each other into the environment.

These days, Microsoft has published APIs and guidelines available for software developers who create these types of applications and, in turn, the various third-party developers who write security software are better about using them, so this is less of an issue today then it was a decade ago.

It certainly does not hurt to be cautious and disable security programs before performing some sort of low-level disk operation, however, chances are, your security program is not going to interfere with defragmenting or formatting a disk volume.

If you are concerned, what I would suggest doing is making a complete backup of the system, and then performing a defragmentation--or other operation--with all your security software in place. If a non-recoverable problem occurs you can recovery your system to its prior state by restoring the backup.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky


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Stumped



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Thanks for the history, Aryeh. Smile

While I have never had a problem with a system crash or any other corruption of files while installing programs or defragging and I have not seen any deterioration of music or data while copying, burning, ripping, etc, others here on the forum religiously apply and advocate using End It All whenever they preform these functions. Therefore, the question. However, in view of your response, it would appear to be an unnecessary step.

Thanks again.
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Stumped,
Some programs like CD/DVD burners are very CPU and ram intensive.
Anti-Virus programs in particular can be very invasive during these processes.

Many large programs and Suites will tell you in plain English to "shut down all running programs and close all browsers, before continuing".

This seemingly simple process is beyond the capability of most average users. End It All solves that problem.

There are NO hidden functions in End It All. Everything you need to see is on the screen when you run the program.

System files will already be locked with a little yellow padlock.
Like Service Host, etc.

Also your AV programs will be initially locked, but....
Just right click on the padlock beside something that you know you want to UNlock and select "Allow Kill".
Those settings will remain....you don't need to redo that every time you run the program. Smile

Then to run the process, click on the little Red/Green skull and crossbones in the upper tool bar to close/kill all selected programs .
Follow the screen prompts and finish the program.
When it's done its thing, close the program with the X in the upper right corner of the window.

Rebooting the PC will bring all your programs back to life again.
You're not deleting the programs, just temporarily shutting them down.
End It All CANNOT hurt your PC.
So don't be afraid to give it a try.
Every one of my customers, has the program, uses the program as I've got it set up and they have no problems with it. Even my little ol' blue haired ladies use it and love it. Wink Laughing

Cheers!
Doc
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:55 am    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Stumped,

Have you tried "End It All 2" yet?

Curious minds want to know.....

Doc
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Stumped



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

I should have replied to this a while ago, sorry. I have been really busy and just check in for a couple of minutes most days.

I have been successfully using the program since late February and it seems that it now comes natural to do so. Last time was 2 days ago when I downloaded SP3 from Major Geeks and installed the update without a hitch and in very short time. I really didn't time it but it took about 10 minutes to download and the same to install.

Thanks for your help and the explanation of how to use End It All 2. Very Happy
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drwho07



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:42 pm    Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.]

Congratulations, on joining the thousands of users that use "End It All 2".

Good Luck and Happy Computing!

The Doctor
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