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xavierx

Joined: Nov 06, 2004 Posts: 3871
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: Civil Rights Icon Compares McCain to George Wallace |
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Georgia Rep. John Lewis, a civil rights-era icon , invoked segregationist Gov. George Wallace of Alabama in accusing John McCain and Sarah Palin of fanning the flames of hatred at Republican campaign events.
"What I am seeing reminds me of too much of another destructive period in American history," Lewis said in a statement released to FOX News. "Senator McCain and Governor Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse."
"George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights," Lewis added. "Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama."
He then accused McCain and Palin of "playing with fire" in a way that "disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy."
McCain immediately responded, calling on Obama to denounce Lewis' statement.
"Congressman John Lewis' comments represent a character attack against Governor Sarah Palin and me that is shocking and beyond the pale," McCain said in a written statement. "The notion that legitimate criticism of Senator Obama's record and positions could be compared to Governor George Wallace, his segregationist policies and the violence he provoked is unacceptable and has no place in this campaign." |
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/11/civil-rights-icon-compares-mcc...-segreg
And again, Obama's surrogates launch a racist attack. I wonder when the McCain racist attacks that so many here predicted will start? |
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ejward

Joined: Jan 06, 2003 Posts: 6521
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The notion that legitimate criticism of Senator Obama's record and positions could be compared to Governor George Wallace, his segregationist policies and the violence he provoked is unacceptable and has no place in this campaign." |
They riling up people who shout "Terrorist" and "Kill him" at their rallies. That's just free speech? That's hate and Palin seems to be encouraging it.
And just because a Democrat makes a comment about something doesn't mean they are a surrogate for Obama. Sure, it's convenient to use every bad thing that every Democrat says as though the words came right out of Obama's mouth.
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mommabear

Joined: Feb 20, 2003 Posts: 6185
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Rep. Lewis clarifies controversial remarks about McCain, Palin
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Georgia Rep. John Lewis said Saturday that controversial remarks he made comparing the feeling at recent Republican rallies to those of segregationist George Wallace were misinterpreted. ...
The civil rights icon issued a statement Saturday evening which said a "careful review" of his remarks made earlier in the day "would reveal that I did not compare Sen. John McCain or Gov. Sarah Palin to George Wallace."
Clarifying his remarks later Saturday, Lewis said his statement "was a reminder to all Americans that toxic language can lead to destructive behavior."
"I am glad that Sen. McCain has taken some steps to correct divisive speech at his rallies. I believe we need to return to civil discourse in this election about the pressing economic issues that are affecting our nation."
Obama's campaign said Obama "does not believe that John McCain or any policy criticism is any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies" but said Lewis was "right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric."
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/12/mccain.lewis/?iref=mpstoryview |
I remember those times. Lewis' statement was on the mark. I understood what he meant. And so does anyone else outside of the fanatical McCain support group. |
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kenmabmcc

Joined: Nov 20, 2003 Posts: 7258
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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McCain and Palin 'playing with fire'
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Now, Lewis is castigating McCain in the harshest of terms.
“As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all," Lewis said today. "They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better.” |
The McCain/Palin campaign must be in deep doo-doo to have to resort to smears to try to win.
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Lewis's sharp words may be dismissed as those of a partisan Democrat in a campaign season. But the former head of SNCC and hero of Selma is somebody who McCain has lavished praise upon over the years, including admiring him in a book on courage and bravery and repeatedly invoking Lewis's name in public appearances.
Appearing with Barack Obama at a forum at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church in August, McCain included Lewis as one of "three wise men" he would consult as president. |
Hmmm....
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xavierx

Joined: Nov 06, 2004 Posts: 3871
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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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I see. So as usual, Democrats can say anything they want about McCain (or any Republican for that matter), and you all defend and support them, no matter how pathetic and hate filled. But God forbid anyone say anything about Obama, why those people are just evil racists.
The hypocrisy in this forum is stunning. Sad, but stunning. |
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kenmabmcc

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Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| xavierx wrote: |
I see. So as usual, Democrats can say anything they want about McCain (or any Republican for that matter), and you all defend and support them, no matter how pathetic and hate filled. But God forbid anyone say anything about Obama, why those people are just evil racists.
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Well if you say so....I think they are just evil...
Seeing as McCain is not going to be president,
McCain won't be consulting Lewis.
Both will be happy...
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xavierx

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:27 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Has anyone bothered to read his words? Lewis posted them to his own web site:
http://www.johnlewisforcongress.com/node/219
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"As one who was a victim of violence and hate during the height of the Civil Rights Movement, I am deeply disturbed by the negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign. What I am seeing today reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse.
"During another period, in the not too distant past, there was a governor of the state of Alabama named George Wallace who also became a presidential candidate. George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who only desired to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed one Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.
"As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Governor Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all. They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better." |
McCain is nothing like Wallace. Questioning someone's judgment is not racism, is not "creating the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who only desired to exercise their constitutional rights."
His attack was the pathetic hatred that's become common from Democrats towards Republicans anymore. And as a result, quickly excused and forgotten by Democrats and of course the Media. Sad. |
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kenmabmcc

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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I am sure Lewis knows the difference between McCain and Wallace.
What he says is
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| What I am seeing today reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse. |
Reminds is the word.....
It is just another beatup by desperate republicans.
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mommabear

Joined: Feb 20, 2003 Posts: 6185
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| xavierx wrote: |
Has anyone bothered to read his words? Lewis posted them to his own web site:
http://www.johnlewisforcongress.com/node/219
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"As one who was a victim of violence and hate during the height of the Civil Rights Movement, I am deeply disturbed by the negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign. What I am seeing today reminds me too much of another destructive period in American history. Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse.
"During another period, in the not too distant past, there was a governor of the state of Alabama named George Wallace who also became a presidential candidate. George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who only desired to exercise their constitutional rights. Because of this atmosphere of hate, four little girls were killed one Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.
"As public figures with the power to influence and persuade, Sen. McCain and Governor Palin are playing with fire, and if they are not careful, that fire will consume us all. They are playing a very dangerous game that disregards the value of the political process and cheapens our entire democracy. We can do better. The American people deserve better." |
McCain is nothing like Wallace. Questioning someone's judgment is not racism, is not "creating the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who only desired to exercise their constitutional rights."
His attack was the pathetic hatred that's become common from Democrats towards Republicans anymore. And as a result, quickly excused and forgotten by Democrats and of course the Media. Sad. |
You're right in one sense. McCain-Palin aren't trying to incite vicious attacks against innocent AmericanS. It's just one innocent American they're going after.
Here's some real hatred!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us
Just saying they won't do it anymore is not enough now. They set off these nut jobs. They spread this dangerous mis-information to ignorant people, not willing to do their own research into what's true and what isn't. They are guilty as charged. You just refuse to see it because you are obsessed with defending McCain at all costs. |
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swordofdestiny

Joined: Sep 25, 2008 Posts: 106
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Well, you guys have your "nutjobs" too. Barack wont tell them not to do it. Why is it okay for the media to ignore people who wear shirts with "Palin is a c***," but they jump all over verbal statements at a McCain rally? Plain and simple, neither candidate can control what their followers do/say. I don't find either candidate at fault for having "nutjobs" at their rallies. Just my 2-4 cents. |
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Sgt Schultz

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mommabear

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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Thanks, Sarge! You have saved me the trouble of trying to explain that while the T-shirts are not in the best of taste, the "c" word certainly doesn't reach the level of the Palin rhetoric that brought out responses like "Kill Him" and "Off With His Head".
btw, swordofdestiny, about 3 minutes into Barack's economic speech he brought up something about McCain's policies and the crowd started to boo. Barack did stop them. He held up his hands and said, "Hey, we don't need any of that." And they stopped booing. |
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xavierx

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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Hatred of republicans is the forum's unofficial pass-time. I can't believe you're defending this jerk's comments.
Oh, and Mommabear, McCain stopped people, too. He took the mike away and was booed for saying that Obama isn't a monster, just wrong (paraphrasing).
Typical here, too - all Republican's are evil because of one or two idiots, but leading Democrats can be as hate filled and racist as they want. |
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ejward

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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Hatred of republicans is the forum's unofficial pass-time. I can't believe you're defending this jerk's comments.
Oh, and Mommabear, McCain stopped people, too. He took the mike away and was booed for saying that Obama isn't a monster, just wrong (paraphrasing).
Typical here, too - all Republican's are evil because of one or two idiots, but leading Democrats can be as hate filled and racist as they want. |
McCain took the mic away from a woman who called Obama an "Arab". To which McCain said "No. He's a decent family man....". So, "Decent family man" is the opposite of Arab? Arabs are not decent? He was well intentioned but, a little racist in his reply don't you think? What if Obama did the same thing/ You don't think Hannity and Limbaugh would be all over it? |
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xavierx

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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Listen to the whole thing - she started with "I'm scared to death of Obama ..." and then started to say something hateful. He stopped her, and told people he wasn't a monster, that he was just wrong. If you don't like that, oh well. |
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ejward

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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Listen to the whole thing - she started with "I'm scared to death of Obama ..." and then started to say something hateful. He stopped her, and told people he wasn't a monster, that he was just wrong. If you don't like that, oh well. |
That's not what he said. He didn't say anything about monsters. He didn't even say Obama was wrong
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpE6ljPjSAk
I applaude McCain for stopping her. But, the next day McCain was playing the victim. Saying that he's heard the same things shouted out about him at Obaba rallies. He didn't say if they were shouting "terrorist" or "kill him". It's suprising to me that none of those shouts made it on video. Not even on Fox. Is that just part of the media cover up? Or, did McCain just lie about it? |
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