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seaeagle
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 Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:10 am Post subject: Bush envisions permanent US presence in Iraq like S. Korea |
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Bush envisions U.S. presence in Iraq like S.Korea | Politics | Reuters
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President George W. Bush would like to see a lengthy U.S. troop presence in Iraq like the one in South Korea to provide stability but not in a frontline combat role, the White House said on Wednesday.
The United States has had thousands of U.S. troops in South Korea to guard against a North Korean invasion for 50 years.
Democrats in control of the U.S. Congress have been pressing Bush to agree to a timetable for pulling troops from Iraq, an idea firmly opposed by the president.
White House spokesman Tony Snow said Bush would like to see a U.S. role in Iraq ultimately similar to that in South Korea in which "you get to a point in the future where you want it to be a purely support model." (continues) |
No wonder the USA is building permanent bases and a half-billion dollar embassy in Iraq. |
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clhenry
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| If Iraq would become stabilized, would that be such a bad idea? We have bases all around the world. Iraq would be no different. Just a strategical point to work out of. but it has a long way to go before i see that ever happening.
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| I think the problem would be the resentment it would cause in the surrounding nations. A lot of studies are showing that the American coalition's presence in Iraq is exacerbating terrorism. To be brutally honest, I don't think that Iraq can be stabilised while we remain there. It would be better to have a peacekeeping force made up of various Arab/Muslim nations - the insurgents would probably be more accepting of that arrangement. |
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clhenry
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:21 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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Your right, there would be a lot of resentment. But there was lot of resentment between East and West Germany, and Russia. Same with North and South Korea, along with Russia. I personally don't think i would like to see us stay there. There has been one terrorist group that has layed down their guns, and another now at the table talking about doing the same. A lot of this is due to the Iraq people standing up and are tired of the terrorist killing their people. I believe yesterday The Iraq people called in the forces again to push some terrorist out. If this continues, things are looking up. So while we may be resented, they are asking for help.
Personally though, I think i would like to see us leave when the dust settles. More because of the trust factor, than the resentment factor. |
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seaeagle
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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You're pretty much right on that one. The only question is whether the anti-American insurgents will accept a reduced American presence in the country. If it's just a few bases to help keep the peace, they might be willing to go along with it. The other day Sunni residents took up arms against al-Qaeda insurgents:
U.S. battles al-Qaida in west Baghdad - Yahoo! News
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....Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno, the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq, said Thursday that U.S. military officers were talking with Iraqi militants — excluding al-Qaida — about cease-fires and other arrangements to try to stop the violence. He said he thinks 80 percent of Iraqis, including Sunni insurgents and Shiite militants, can reach reconciliation with each other, although most al-Qaida operatives will not.
Abu Ahmed, a 40-year-old Sunni father of four in Baghdad's Amariyah neighborhood, said he was among a group of residents who joined in the clashes with al-Qaida fighters on Wednesday and Thursday — fed up with the gunfire that kept students from final exams and forced people in the neighborhood to huddle indoors.
Ahmed denied being a member of any insurgent groups but said he sympathizes with "honest Iraqi resistance," referring to those opposed to U.S.-led efforts in Iraq but also against the brutal tactics of al-Qaida.... |
So I assume that once the USA gives a timetable for leaving the anti-American presence insurgency will likely settle down.
BTW, it's good to see you back in the forum  . |
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clhenry
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| Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| BTW, it's good to see you back in the forum . |
Thanks  |
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Sgt Schultz
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| I believe we'll continue to have some sort of military presence in Iraq for many decades. We'll eventually leave en mass but a few low key bases will continue to exist just like in Saudi Arabia. |
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Kriss
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Sgt Schultz wrote: |
| I believe we'll continue to have some sort of military presence in Iraq for many decades. We'll eventually leave en mass but a few low key bases will continue to exist just like in Saudi Arabia. |
One reason we are in Iraq-Saudi wants us out.  |
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Sgt Schultz
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| Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Kriss wrote: |
| Sgt Schultz wrote: |
| I believe we'll continue to have some sort of military presence in Iraq for many decades. We'll eventually leave en mass but a few low key bases will continue to exist just like in Saudi Arabia. |
One reason we are in Iraq-Saudi wants us out. |
As long as the house of Saud still reigns we'll have a military presence there. If it does fall then all bets are off. |
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kenmabmcc
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| Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: [Login to view extended thread Info.] |
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| Sgt Schultz wrote: |
| I believe we'll continue to have some sort of military presence in Iraq for many decades. We'll eventually leave en mass but a few low key bases will continue to exist just like in Saudi Arabia. |
The military presence will give the extremist's of bin Laden's ilk a continuing cause,
and keep recruits flowing for the Jahadist's. |
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